Comments on: What happens when a foreign person comes to the UK and needs medical care? http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:12:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: CLIVE H http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-715 CLIVE H Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:37:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-715 Health tourism is a big debate right now in the UK as the NHS comes up to it's 60th Birthday - Happy Birthday NHS. EU citizens are advised to have medical insurance when travelling anywhere in the EU - the NHS will take care of most things, accidents etc., but it will not take care of a person trying to get medical treatment for some long-term illness. Is 'health tourism' really draining NHS finances? Mark Gould ...14 May 2008 ... The heat of that debate will increase this summer when a government consultation will propose even tighter restrictions on NHS access for ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/14/nhs.society http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZaUoRYIQmE<br><b>References : </b><br> Health tourism is a big debate right now in the UK as the NHS comes up to it's 60th Birthday – Happy Birthday NHS.

EU citizens are advised to have medical insurance when travelling anywhere in the EU – the NHS will take care of most things, accidents etc., but it will not take care of a person trying to get medical treatment for some long-term illness.

Is 'health tourism' really draining NHS finances? Mark Gould …14 May 2008 … The heat of that debate will increase this summer when a government consultation will propose even tighter restrictions on NHS access for …
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may/14/nhs.society

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZaUoRYIQmE
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]]> By: twentyniner http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-714 twentyniner Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:22:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-714 If they are an EU citizen there are reciprocal arrangements for free health treatment. If they are not they are only entitled to free care if in a road accident, but the hospital administrators are supposed to record details for insurance claim procedures. For anything else the patient must pay, but I understand that they never do because the unions have told their members that it is a racist act to ask for details, and every hospital administration clerk is scared of the PC brigade and the Race Relations Industry, because if reported they would be sacked. If you go to a private hospital and are not insured for their treatments you have to pay up front, at least someone runs a sensible system, it can be done.<br><b>References : </b><br> If they are an EU citizen there are reciprocal arrangements for free health treatment.
If they are not they are only entitled to free care if in a road accident, but the hospital administrators are supposed to record details for insurance claim procedures. For anything else the patient must pay, but I understand that they never do because the unions have told their members that it is a racist act to ask for details, and every hospital administration clerk is scared of the PC brigade and the Race Relations Industry, because if reported they would be sacked. If you go to a private hospital and are not insured for their treatments you have to pay up front, at least someone runs a sensible system, it can be done.
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]]> By: windowman88 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-713 windowman88 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:58:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-713 everyone foreign gets it gratis us hard working english pay the bill but you need any help from the govenment hard luck suffer i'm of sick and all i get is £70 a kin week now how does that grab you<br><b>References : </b><br> everyone foreign gets it gratis us hard working english pay the bill but you need any help from the govenment hard luck suffer i'm of sick and all i get is £70 a kin week now how does that grab you
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]]> By: Ray N http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-712 Ray N Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:32:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-712 It just like in the U S They well take care of you But don't tell them this as they love to think we yanks let people die in the street and their medical care is free It makes me happy<br><b>References : </b><br> It just like in the U S They well take care of you But don't tell them this as they love to think we yanks let people die in the street and their medical care is free It makes me happy
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]]> By: Caicos Turkey http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-711 Caicos Turkey Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:01:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-711 EU nationals take out a European health insurance card, which entitles them to the same standard of health care as local people would receive. http://ec.europa.eu/employment_social/healthcard/citoyens_en.htm As it is free for UK nationals who spend two thirds of their time in the UK, so it is free for them. Foreigners from non EU States are supposed to take out private insurance cover and pay privately. However, many people abuse the system, including people who could well afford to pay, and at the end of their treatment simply leave without paying. As far as asylum seekers are concerned, the need for medical treatment of any kind is not a valid ground for being admitted to the UK and if this were the primary purpose of coming, then it would be a ground for turning down their application for asylum and sending them home. Again, this doesn't seem to happen much in practice. The whole system is in a mess. I know people who are domiciled in the UK and paying into the system there, but working away from the UK on a temporary basis who fall foul of the two thirds rule (not away for more than four months a year) and are refused treatment when home. I also know people who are domiciled in countries other than the UK who for some reason are able to go to the UK to receive treatment on a regular basis.<br><b>References : </b><br> EU nationals take out a European health insurance card, which entitles them to the same standard of health care as local people would receive. http://ec.europa.eu/employment_social/healthcard/citoyens_en.htm
As it is free for UK nationals who spend two thirds of their time in the UK, so it is free for them.

Foreigners from non EU States are supposed to take out private insurance cover and pay privately. However, many people abuse the system, including people who could well afford to pay, and at the end of their treatment simply leave without paying.

As far as asylum seekers are concerned, the need for medical treatment of any kind is not a valid ground for being admitted to the UK and if this were the primary purpose of coming, then it would be a ground for turning down their application for asylum and sending them home. Again, this doesn't seem to happen much in practice.

The whole system is in a mess. I know people who are domiciled in the UK and paying into the system there, but working away from the UK on a temporary basis who fall foul of the two thirds rule (not away for more than four months a year) and are refused treatment when home. I also know people who are domiciled in countries other than the UK who for some reason are able to go to the UK to receive treatment on a regular basis.
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]]> By: Bobby http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-710 Bobby Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:32:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-710 Although Nhs isnt perfect generally everyone receives the same level of care unlike the american health care system the nhs is still a non profit univeral health care system which is extended to all citizens and foreign visitors. So dont worry about having to pay for an ambulance if you need it.<br><b>References : </b><br> Although Nhs isnt perfect generally everyone receives the same level of care unlike the american health care system the nhs is still a non profit univeral health care system which is extended to all citizens and foreign visitors. So dont worry about having to pay for an ambulance if you need it.
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]]> By: dick19532003 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-709 dick19532003 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:02:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-709 firstly they are entitled to free medical emergency care if they are an eu citizen with a e111 or whatever the new name is for it, just as we in the uk are if we travel within the uk. with regard to other countries as has been said emergency treatment would be provided but if they have travel inurance they would be expected to claim on that. i cannot imagine any a and e refusing to treat anyone in a genuine emergency.<br><b>References : </b><br> firstly they are entitled to free medical emergency care if they are an eu citizen with a e111 or whatever the new name is for it, just as we in the uk are if we travel within the uk. with regard to other countries as has been said emergency treatment would be provided but if they have travel inurance they would be expected to claim on that.
i cannot imagine any a and e refusing to treat anyone in a genuine emergency.
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]]> By: Croxx http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-708 Croxx Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:20:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-708 Emergency treatment (A&E) is free, a non resident would have to pay for other treatment. But the NHS do not seem to check!<br><b>References : </b><br> Emergency treatment (A&E) is free, a non resident would have to pay for other treatment.

But the NHS do not seem to check!
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]]> By: wondering http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care/comment-page-1#comment-707 wondering Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:09:59 +0000 http://firstaidlist.com/medical-care/what-happens-when-a-foreign-person-comes-to-the-uk-and-needs-medical-care#comment-707 The NHS will never refuse a person who has a life threatening condition this much I know. If they are in for something like an ingrown toe nail...I dont know what would happen but i assume they would be treated.<br><b>References : </b><br> The NHS will never refuse a person who has a life threatening condition this much I know. If they are in for something like an ingrown toe nail…I dont know what would happen but i assume they would be treated.
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